Thursday, April 01, 2010

to flickr or not to flickr?

La Reunion. March 2010. © Allison V. Smith

La Reunion. March 2010. © Allison V. Smith

to flickr or not to flickr?
I'd like to hear your thoughts.
I posted a few new photos on flickr last night, the first time in months. My dear flickr friend, Trey Kazee, was the first to leave a comment asking " are you coming back to flickr?? "
Not sure I ever left. There is a certain hesitation though.
Just curious how others feel about flickr. Above photographs from an open house at La Reunion. One photo I posted on flickr and one I did not.

24 comments:

summerbl4ck said...

Interesting question. I think flickr is a great "one-stop shop" where I can find inspiring examples of photography without having to visit umpteen individual blogs. Plus for an amateur photographer like myself, it's a way to show--and get some attention--for my photos. I had a blog for about a year and had basically no traffic (except for a few friends + family--thx!). I wanted to be part of a community, participate in give+take about photos, and I realized that my island of a blog was not the best way to do it.

Indiana Rachel said...

I've always loved to browse through and find other interesting shots on flickr. But their 200-photo cap for people unwilling/unable to pay every year definitely dampened my flickr mood. I guess it depends on how much you're willing to spend - not sure if Picasa charges after a certain number of photos.

sharon said...

picasa does charge after a certain amount of space is used up...
personally, i love looking through your flickr photos and that is how i discovered your blog - so i hope you do continue to post there and post often!

brian adams said...

I like flickr. It's how I met you. :)

Plus flickr hosts my photos on my web site, so I can't leave. LOL.

You would be missed. :(

trey kazee said...

(i like to think of you as a real life friend, too)

;-)

becki said...

I personally love flickr because it's a great way to see my friends' photos in bulk, including some gems they may not choose to post on their blogs. :)

I have wondered though, as a non-professional photographer myself, how you, a professional photographer, protect your images. Is that a concern for you?

halz-haz-a-say said...

why the hesitation, holmz? you worried about people stealing your work?

Michael Sebastian said...

I say, with some reservation, "Yes, Flickr."

I used it as a primary venue for showing work for a year or so, until I started seriously to develop a portfolio website worthy of the designation. At that point, Flickr languished, the unloved first girlfriend/boyfriend, dropped when someone hotter came along.

I have recently gone back to Flickr, and it's worked well. I use it as a visual "sketchbook", trying out images whose place among my portfolio is not decided, or for exploring image ideas publicly in a place apart from the finished work on my main site.

I don't link directly to Flickr from my main site, but I do the other direction. I think used in this way, Flickr can be a plus rather than a detractor. I think people understand that the work on Flickr is something different than what's on your main site, and regard it as such without casting aspersions on your finished work.

Anonymous said...

If nothing else, it's another way for others to see your pictures, so can't be too bad. The flickr crowd is a fickle one though, I think it's not really worth putting stuff on there that isn't totally eye-catching, because most people don't have the time..

Fraction Magazine said...

I have no hesitation about putting work on flickr. Be aware of what groups you put the work into and limit the file sizes to no bigger than 400pixels on the longest side and 72 dpi.

Anonymous said...

nah

Jonathan Zizzo said...

I like to search flickr to see results from all the various types of cameras that there are.

I have mixed feelings about it though because bloggers and people that run fan sites as a hobby snag them off there all the time..

roy gumpel said...

very nice work alison.
how I happened upon this I can barely figure out at this point, but I am pleasantly here, looking at your images. I love the iphone images. beautiful. What is this app you mention for it? Personally I don't use a phone to take photos, I don't have an iphone. why is it that everyone seems to be able to afford a $100 a month fancy phone, but I sure can't?? Because I went and had three kids maybe. are you shooting with a blad? what lens is the black guy in the band hat shot with? gorgeous!
www.roygumpel.com

erin said...

i love flickr for the most part. i think it's a great way to bookmark and keep track of some of my favorite photographers.

it's also been a useful tool in becoming better at self-editing. not that feedback and approval are solely what i rely on, but it's a venue that can provide that added push if i'm feeling unsure of a particular image/project.

Van said...

To me you ARE flickr, hard to imagine you not having a presence there.

Claudie C-G said...

Flickr is gluttony. No question. Do I enjoy getting lost in it for hours? Um, kinda. It's like Thanksgiving dinner: delicious but deadly.
Flickr is the big conversation, the external not the internal.
Your blog is a smaller conversation: with yourself, your friends and followers, etc.
I was surprised to see you ask this question; I've been thinking about it for a couple of weeks now. I post scads of stuff on Flickr. Some junk, some gems. And I don't get it when you great photographer types only post one or two things there. I tend to overnourish. So, it's a tad bit different question for me: should I or how do I restrain myself? What is my blog about?
Maybe it's a question of priority: one's website is your portfolio, one's blog is where you muse out loud, and Flickr is where you let your hair down, look at the work of others, share your favorites, your flubs, your finds.
And what the heck role does Facebook play? Since you brought it up.
I love your work by the way. Thanks for asking the question and making me say this stuff out loud. Virtually.

Dan Routman said...

Please continue to Flickr! It makes sense to distribute your work in as many places as possible. Someone who is unaware of your work or your blog may just find it on Flickr. And who knows, it could be someone like Donald Trump.

deborah d. lattimore said...

i have very conflicted feelings about flickr. i've been a member since 2005, and it's where book publishers, ad agencies, and magazines find my photos, through tagging, and purchase them. however, even with "all rights reserved," i have had many, many photos downloaded (stolen) and sold on other websites, with no attribution. i've even had people download my photos from my flickr site and put them on THEIR flickr site and claim ownership and all rights reserved. yahoo copyright office has helped me shut those sites down, but who knows how many more there are that i haven't found. i used tineye.com to find dozens of sites that were using my photos and selling them, also manipulating them. the worst was a person who used one of my anti-war photos on a pro-george bush site. horrors. it took me two years to get 12 sites to take down my photos, and i am sure there are more out there i don't know about. so i watermark the hell out of my photos and upload small sizes. if i didn't make most of my photography income from flickr, i'd close my account.

Jason Dean said...

I am a big fan of flickr specifically for how closely you can control your images. If you know what you are doing, you can make it super difficult for people to download and use your photos without permission - something I have had problems with in the past. Of course, I don't have the same goal with my images as you do, but I like flickr for its control, its integration with Aperture, and how integrated it can be with my "web presence." The new galleries feature is great, too.

avs said...

Awesome, Frank responses. I really appreciate all of your thoughts. Keep them coming. I will continue to post edits on Flickr because it's true, I have made so many amazing friends on flickr and seen so many things that inspire me. I sometimes worry about over saturation of images & yes I do worry about images being stolen or used without credit or permission. I do believe that the good out weighs the bad.
Que Vive Flickr!

Van said...

Just out of curiosity I went to your flickr page plus Deborah and Brian Adams, I couldn't pull any images off. Went to some of my contacts, some I could, some I couldn't. I've had people contact me to use images for different projects, always very nice about it. Maybe other images have been pulled and I just don't know it.

I think of flickr as people's sketchbooks, they put up things they really like, but others just for their own amusement. I really like finding someone whose work is incredible and spending 20-30 minutes digging around on their site.

One last thing, flickr is 24.95 for a year, I think that is a bargain.

deborah d. lattimore said...

van, there are several ways to pull off our photos from flickr, even with "all rights reserved" photos. you can download any of them to picasa, just by "save as." no such thing as photo protection on flickr. there have been numerous lawsuits against corporations that have downloaded photos from flickr and used them in ad campaigns, without attribution, and in some cases those were all rights reserved.

deborah d. lattimore said...

allison, i was able to download the first five of your photos from flickr, and i didn't try with the rest. a simple "save as" in picasa brings them up, even with the spaceball "protection."

Anonymous said...

I think you should continue to use flickr. That is how I found your blog.

Maybe think about posting one or two new images a week. Gives some anticipation for people who like your work to check in on a weekly basis.

Also think about removing work after it has been up for a little while. Keep the amount of images you have on flickr to a minimum.


Essentially you should use flickr as a driver to your main website, or blog. Once people have viewed a sample of your work on flickr they can then go to your portolio site etc. to see the fully body of work.

I think it makes good business sense for someone who does photography for a living to have their work viewable to as many people as possible.

Anyway continue the great work. Thanks.